Sunday, February 17, 2008

Weekly Devotion Topic

H10: What do you think about starting a post each Sunday for devotion thoughts? There are 6 of us so every sixth Sunday it would be your turn to start a post with some devotion topic. Then, through the week the rest of us would leave a comment or two. The idea is to promote our personal quiet time. I will start with with a post for this week!

BACKGROUND: There is a book series entitled "Great Conversations" by Ravi Zacharias. I'm reading "Jesus talks with Oscar Wilde on the pursuit of pleasure." Here is an excerpt.


Topic: Building our Soul (e.g. heart, spirit, individual, eternal as opposed to flesh, body, temporal)


JESUS:
What seems so difficult for many to grasp is that pleasure is always monetary. You can time it on every occasion. It has no staying power. That's what happens "under the sun"--apart from God. All pleasure, however good, is locked into the sensation of the moment. Was the pleasure in keeping with the way my Father has framed you? If it's in keeping with His will the mark it leaves upon your conscience will draw you back again to the pleasure, only this time it is pursued for a greater purpose than immediate gratification.

This is something you must understand
To be enduring pleasure must always come from a prior moral commitment. If not, it is fleeting and empties very quickly. And in every relationship, there must be a moral commitment. Don't ever forget that.

OSCAR WILDE: But how can one treat things that are temporary as nothing? Just because they're temporary? I know this body is temporary. But so is life. Must I treat it as nothing?


JESUS: I said that anything that endures for a shorter time than the soul does is incapable of satisfying the soul.

OSCAR WILDE: Which means that I shouldn't pursue anything that doesn't satisfy the soul? Where does the body fit into all of this..."the flesh," as you often call it?

JESUS: No it doesn't mean you shouldn't pursue anything that doesn't satisfy the soul. But is does mean that anything that violates the soul destroys it. What is permanent is destroyed by what is temporary.

OSCAR WILDE: There's a hierarchy of pleasure, then?

Jesus: Of course...but here's your answer. In seeking pleasure, you pursued the body and lost the person. You sought the sensation and sacrificed the individual. You see, in pursuing the sacred, you exalt the person and the sensation follows. Life then makes sense. In pursuing the sensuality, you exalt the body and profane the person. It's like emptying a container and throwing it away. Life, then, becomes just a container. Living becomes senseless.

You wanted sexual promiscuity. It's written into the nature of sexuality that perversion empties pleasure of the meaning for which it was created. The body was not made for that...

I was not deceived by the tempter because My singular desire was to do the will of My Father. I couldn't be enticed to do the wrong thing because My desire was to please My Father. And that was what the temptation that came to a climax in the second garden (Gethsemane) was all about.

6 comments:

Clint said...

Hey Guys...

So, this post ended up going really long. It doesn't have to be. Maybe just a verse for the week sometime and how it affects us.

Dad always asked us--"how is your heart?"

I think this is what Jesus is saying by talking about feeding the "soul."

I want to be feeding my soul while in residency...while at work! How can I get energized by residency instead of drained.

Does it have to do with whether I'm feeding my soul by it?

If so, how?

Clint

lukecschafer said...

Great idea Clint. I just went out for coffee with Ed on Sunday after church and we were remarking that we NEED to get H10 together again soon.

Also, thanks for your hard work on the blog. It looks great and I hope will lead us closer to each other over the next few weeks/months/years.

Why do we have to start the first blog with such difficult questions???

I really think that to a great degree, it boils down to attitude. Are we thankful to have the jobs/residency/opportunities that we do?? Or do we see them as a means to an end. If that is the case, then it could be difficul if not impossible to have a good attitude and be truly grateful to God for all that we have opportunity wise.

Am I totally off???

Luke

Ed said...

It seems one of the keys is our attitude or motive. Is our work....and play for that matter....an effort to honor and gloritfy God. Or...is is about us. Jesus focused on the motives.....what is our motive. A selfless motive results in the fruit of the spirit....love, joy, peace, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance....etc.

Love you guys!

Dad

Bry&Ash said...

Clint, thanks, man. You always seem to make life a little bit sweeter.

Oh most wise Luke Shaf, I agree with you very much that it's a matter of attitude. I think life (and pleasure) will forever come down to our true priorities.

So if I'm going to work with the mindset of searching for what is good, true, honest...(phil4:8) I will find a staying pleasure in it. However, assuming I go to work with a mindset focused on myself, I'm guessing I will only find disappointment because of a poor focus, not poor situation.

In other words, I agree with you whole-heartedly, Luke.

Clint, good devotion.
Dad, let us know a good time to get together. Love you guys.

Clint said...

Are you guys getting email notices when someone posts?

Clint

Clint said...

Who has the next weekly topic?

Clint